mikbackup
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« on: February 27, 2011, 10:48:41 PM » |
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Yes... miklos is having a whine about gold again, but...
I'd like to know whether I'm just psychologically ill-equipped for Blizzard's current Endgame design philosophy or whether others feel this way to.
I know Money in game is apparently no excuse... however I do feel a little upset by being accused of 'not trying' to make gold... all the usual ways of making it that everyone else does immediately makes me turn of WoW and play another game... heck that's what my gaming computer is for... all my games in one spot so if i get bored of one i can go straight to another. Dailies and Crafting Professions and to a lesser extent gathering professions make me want to tear my hair out... (I can never ever do the same thing over and over daily... also levelling alts is not what I'm keen OT do as i find that process arduous and droll too...) i find playing the Auction house to be annoying and dull as it is mainly dominated by people who get in-demand items and then self justify selling them at obscene prices... making life difficult for people who like me have trouble making money (of course rare in-demand items are indeed justified for being expensive)
Does anyone else find that the 'usual' ways of making money make them want to put a fist through a their computer... or am I just being a stupid noob who sucks at making money? either way... is still refuse to pay 100/700g for a Burning Crusade basic Enchant...
Miklos (BTW this is a second forum account... for some reason I can't access my old one)
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Deshammy
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 03:36:11 PM » |
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Can't be in that boat with you Mik, I have no problem with the WoW economy at all. I actually enjoy farming leather and scales etc and making the items I need to to make money. Fishing is a pleasurable and soothing pastime that I enjoy both r/t and ingame and it makes me gold. On my other characters I have no problem farming for whatever it is their profs need.The world ( of warcraft ) can sometimes work for me.
Having said that, my 15 year old is the same as you. The game is for playing not farming for gold. If he gets bored he switches to LoL or goes and plays the Xbox.
All in all its different strokes for different folks and thats what makes the world go around. You do need ingame gold to buy stuff you have to have for raids or dungeons but there must be ways of getting it that dont necessarily entail boring yourself to death.
You said that gathering is a less suicide inducing thing for you. Then just kill a few dragons and skin them and dont run past any mining nodes without stopping for the few seconds it takes to hammer at them. If anything gets in your way, kill it and skin it.
You dont need to go out of your way to make a few gold, just pay attention to your minimap and shoot a few beasts and you will make enough to get by.
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Ashrek
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 05:13:52 PM » |
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I'm in agreement with desham on this one. I have relatively limited game time but I manage to keep enough gold in the bank to get the essentials. I've never managed to get enough gold to waste it on some crazy pricey item or mount and i certainly don't have multiple toons with epic flight but i keep my main pretty well maintained. It's no problem if your not into it mik but you have to accept the consequences that come with that...
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mikbackup
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 05:57:04 PM » |
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My issue is not that I have to make gold... its just that the amount I do make and am happy making is now worthless because of the assumption everyone has 10k plus sitting in their bags... well at least it feels like that sometimes... paying 100g for something that should be at most 20 because someone decided that because people want it they are justified putting that price tag on it is not my idea of saving what I have and using it properly... I'm pretty much kitted out except for 2 slots... I'm just wondering why all of a sudden to get these last two I either need to have enough gold to get past the obscene amounts they are charged on the AH or make them myself or grind rep. In Wrath I survived on the AH mostly... its just that most players charge tonnes more now because they can get away with it because of demand from the albeit 'richer' players.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 05:20:04 AM » |
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I'm curious as to what item you expect should be 20g and is 100g instead. I've spent a bit of time playing the AH game and I can tell you that most crafted items sell for under mats cost. There are very few items that actually go for a profit margin. I can say for myself that time is by far my biggest barrier, and I've never had to do too much to bring in a little gold. When I had the time, I was spending 10 minutes in the morning making and posting stuff on the AH, then another 5 minutes in the arvo bringing in the gold.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 09:24:11 PM » |
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My toon survives on less than 1000g, the gold i had from comleting all the quests have gone into my professions and not having a gathering prof did hurt, so I don't do things like the JC daily when it requires green gems as its not worth paying 30g a pop for nightstone.
It's no big deal, I'm happy to go without, so its not a big deal form me. All I need is to buy some food and flasks for the odd raid i attend and to keep enough in reserve for repairs (although the guild bank sometimes covers this).
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Ahala
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 10:02:47 AM » |
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In all honesty, making gold is just one if those things that come with the game.
If you really hate doing anything remotely like the usual things that most other do, sit in trade and look for a BoT trash GDKP group, run a couple runs of that and you have a guaranteed couple thousand more gold.
That way you can make money, while in a semi raid environment and you can also take the opportunity to try out new things with your class and spec without it having a negative impact on a guild raid.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 02:33:22 PM » |
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I just think a realistic expectation of what you can achieve within the time given. Also an understanding of the consequences of that.
Some people will take longer to be ready to raid than others due to the time they put in.
Does that mean you will be excluded from raids? No. We are prepared to take a lesser geared player if itmeans the raid goes ahead. iit also means that on progression nights, make yourself available but understand that better geared/ genes players will get in ahead of u
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 05:53:47 PM » |
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Seriously mik im sort of with you on the fact that making gold sucks hard, but i dont see you needing a lot to make raids. I have like no gold, and probably less than you but i can get through. I find that a daily heroic gets enough for your food and such for the night, and as long as you get the cheap enchants you should be fine. The hardest thing ive found is actually repairing.
Also note i would take ahala's advise, the GDKP Bot trash run is very good for making money. Each person is likely to get between 700g to 1k for each item that drops and you dont have to bid to get anything, plus its more interesting to run than the normal money making pratises.
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Deshammy
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 06:02:20 PM » |
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I think I see where you are coming from Mik and I do agree that Cata top level crafted gear is very very pricey. 20-25k for an ilevel 359 trinket is not unusual but as Slay says, the mats are the expensive part of the equation. To farm mats for an ilevel 359 leather or mail item will take me several nights not including the dungeons/raids required to get the orbs. Now I have the time at night as I cant raid or whatever but for a raider to assemble the same mats might take weeks. The time and the effort or the gold needed to buy them from someone who does the farming bring the prices more into perspective. Doesnt make it any easier to pay for them but you may be able to appreciate why they come at such a cost.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 06:08:52 AM » |
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And I am assuming you have checked the guild bank. There area few mats as well as full enchants there.
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2011, 02:29:18 PM » |
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I find the time (or lack of it!) factor the hardest aspect to deal with... and that comes into effect when you reach the top levels of almost any crafting professions and have to ply your luck rolling for orbs in instances... I am yet to win my first roll and considering that some plans require up to 6 orbs (I might be wrong here), it'll be a long time b4 I get all the gear I could craft even for myself, let alone anything I could put on AH for some material gain...
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