Progress Team - Post Four - Rank Management

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Rank management

How many progress raiders do we want? DO we specify class or just role? Ie we want three tanks or do we specify a DK, Palli, Warrior etc. Will the rank of progress raider guarantee a raid spot?

If we are going to guarantee a raid spot to progression raiders then we need to limit the numbers to no more than 25 and possibly just 20.

Generic Raid setup
2-3 tanks
5 - 6 healers
4 - 5 Melee
10 - 12 ranged DPS

Suggested Progress team
2 Tanks
5 healers
4 melee
9 ranged DPS

The issues to be managed with this:
We may have more of a particular class that fit the progression raider criteria. For example tanks. How many do we specify as progression raiders and which ones do we pick? I can think of four but we don?t need that many in one raid and getting one to ?off spec? is unfair to a main spec DPS.

A possible solution is a rotation through progression raider rank when we are oversubscribed in certain classes. This needs Time and MANAGEMENT by an officer or two. Do we run SUBS list for progress rank? Will these be our senior raider rank? If a progress player advises they will be unavailable for a period we can slot the next person in straight away? Again this needs people to dedicate time to manage this. We may encounter a problem of some classes rotating and others not due to numbers. I flag this as a possible issue but we will deal with it if and when it arises.

Management of toons who are suitable but have not fitted into the progress raider quota.
It will be natural for those who miss out on progression raider rank to reassess their future in the Roos and decide if they want to stay in hope or leave for ?guaranteed raid spots? in another guild. The Roos have traditionally had a ?everyone is a chance of raiding policy?. As we go down this progress raider rank line we will get players leave as they don?t see any room at the top for them. To be honest I don?t have a solution apart from instilling loyalty in our members or implementing a rotation policy through the progress rank (this needs more management).

Many sporting clubs have lost an up and coming rookie to a new club because of an experienced incumbent only to see the rookie perform better at the new club. (for those NRL fans there is the cases of Johnathon Thurston leaving Canterbury and Brett Kimmorley leaving Newcastle)

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How many progress raiders do we want? DO we specify class or just role?

A class break down.

If we are going to guarantee a raid spot to progression raiders then we need to limit the numbers to no more than 25 and possibly just 20.

We don't guarantee spots. And yes we rotate people. Not everyone can make every raid so we require sign ups a week before the raid (calendar needs to be updated a fortnight in advance)

Progression should be based around 2 10 man teams, (3 in the future). the fillers for 25 will come from senior raiders.

so whats required.

4 tanks,
6-7 healers.
4-5 melee.
10 ranged.

If we get a mass interest we simply take who's interested and make a third team ect ect.

We may have more of a particular class that fit the progression raider criteria.

It will be natural for those who miss out on progression raider rank to reassess their future

This asks the question, what is the point of the progression team. is it to progress or to make the guild feel good.
If its the latter then there is no point Managing all of this and keep the things the way they are.

up and coming rookie to a new club because of an experienced incumbent

If they want to progression raid then they apply.




What this boils down to is a simple choice.

Keep things the way they are now, with just another rank and the need to apply to it.

Or

Do things the way raiding guilds do it, and keep the progression raiding aspect as an "elite team" in the guild. while the rest of the guild remains unchanged.


This question needs to be answered first.

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Could you please provide some detail on what you are proposing. I have taken the wrong end of the stick.

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bump nothing wong with an elete grp as long as they dont become elitist and start refusing to come to non progress raids